Topic: Geo-Scan Data Compositing

I think it would be really neat and help to organize the clutter of a large numbers of geo-scan results if you could start to composite you mining scan data together into a single mineral map. This would allow things like mining corps to work together to make large scale mineral maps for their members as well as allow mineral cartography as a kinda mini profession. selling up to date maps of mineral scans rather then individual scan results.

You would have to find a way to allow new scans to be added on top of old scans replacing the older scan data and then outline the blocks and date them so you can tell what areas are current and which need to be updated.

*Grouping the mineral scans by type of course

Last edited by Nick Fury (2009-11-11 18:24:54)

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Maybe all the Geoscans Area/Tile can be all put into their respective Mining type category.

Example, Titan Ore Area/Tile scans into "Titan Ore", HDT Area/Tile into their own category.. and so on.

Perhaps this might be one of many ways to reduce all the clutter.

Last edited by Arinova (2009-11-12 04:39:10)

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This could be done without the help of DEVs.  Since when you scan it gets put in your cargo... simply invent a grid system (e.g. name the grids on the map A1, A2, A3 etc.) and then name the scan results in your cargo hold respectively with a date on them.

Following this throw them into the corporate hangar for your mates.  These mates then upload them to your map, dock up and put them back in the corporate hangar for the next carebear. smile

Bit time consuming I guess, but what you are wanting to do is already doable.  (I think.)

Edit: With regards to filing the scans - hopefully at some point you will be able to put unlimited containers in corporate storage and name them accordingly - (e.g. per island/per material/per scan type.)

Last edited by Executor (2009-11-12 10:35:01)

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Sorting by type/date is of course possible, we just have to find a nice looking way to do it smile

These are not the drunks you are looking for.

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Like Nick said, it would be great if we could combine all our tile maps into a single ore map. Similarly if we could view the whole ore field on the terrain via the scanner. Combining tile scans would also drastically reduce the amount of clutter for scans.

If it could be possible for tile maps to automatically form an ore field map that would be even better.

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Or simply just divide in individual subfolder which is every easy to do for devs, and remove the frame so it doesn't look like lots of square boxes of scan results. However the frame will appear when you mouse over or select a specific scan data result from the list.


Aranoh

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Building on this, could we be able to create folders within the scan results tab? That way we'd be able to sort by continent, then region, then material type, etc for future use. Now we're having to manually keep track of what scan results found which vein, etc, and it's really a pain.

Also, maybe results could be thrown into a tab accessible to all members of the same corporation.

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The problem with a single combined map is that the geo scan results change. If you mine several squares till empty then rescan you will see that they are not orange any more.
So these super huge scanned maps will become obsolete very quickly. I personally rescan each day, in the areas where i know there are minerals.

As corporations grow we may have people dedicated to scanning, which would alleviate this, would be nice to put a small time stamp on the squares for example, or be able to clone scan data.
Its hard to say how this will develop as more and more corporations grow.

How about having geo scan data only lasting 24 hours then disapearing?

Last edited by Afro (2010-01-06 18:55:23)

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Afro wrote:

As corporations grow we may have people dedicated to scanning, which would alleviate this, would be nice to put a small time stamp on the squares for example, or be able to clone scan data.
Its hard to say how this will develop as more and more corporations grow.

How about having geo scan data only lasting 24 hours then disapearing?

Then have your guys name the scans appropriately and then delete them as they update them. The servers are down at the moment, but I believe the scan data is time stamped when uploaded to the map.

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Afro wrote:

The problem with a single combined map is that the geo scan results change. If you mine several squares till empty then rescan you will see that they are not orange any more.
So these super huge scanned maps will become obsolete very quickly. I personally rescan each day, in the areas where i know there are minerals.

As corporations grow we may have people dedicated to scanning, which would alleviate this, would be nice to put a small time stamp on the squares for example, or be able to clone scan data.
Its hard to say how this will develop as more and more corporations grow.

How about having geo scan data only lasting 24 hours then disapearing?


Yes they are time stamped and have a "serial number" of sorts. This is all fine, but they should still be auto deleted every 24 hours. Just for fun big_smile

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Afro wrote:

Yes they are time stamped and have a "serial number" of sorts. This is all fine, but they should still be auto deleted every 24 hours. Just for fun big_smile

Those mining in more remote areas where scanning once every 3 or 4 days is enough will just be severely annoyed with this.

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So, for mining corps/indy corps I could see this being really cool, as you could have a "warroom" map for mining/harvesting ops, where you could easily coordinate all your activities for all your mates.  Make it something that the solo miner/harvester doesn't get, make it a perk of corporate life to provide a benefit to the social aspect of the game (something most games don't do well, other than saying "you can kill/mine/grind/etc. more in a group than solo)?

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Wintermute wrote:

So, for mining corps/indy corps I could see this being really cool, as you could have a "warroom" map for mining/harvesting ops, where you could easily coordinate all your activities for all your mates.  Make it something that the solo miner/harvester doesn't get, make it a perk of corporate life to provide a benefit to the social aspect of the game (something most games don't do well, other than saying "you can kill/mine/grind/etc. more in a group than solo)?

i like it

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Afro wrote:
Afro wrote:

The problem with a single combined map is that the geo scan results change. If you mine several squares till empty then rescan you will see that they are not orange any more.
So these super huge scanned maps will become obsolete very quickly. I personally rescan each day, in the areas where i know there are minerals.

As corporations grow we may have people dedicated to scanning, which would alleviate this, would be nice to put a small time stamp on the squares for example, or be able to clone scan data.
Its hard to say how this will develop as more and more corporations grow.

How about having geo scan data only lasting 24 hours then disapearing?


Yes they are time stamped and have a "serial number" of sorts. This is all fine, but they should still be auto deleted every 24 hours. Just for fun big_smile

This is true.

I like wintermutes sugestion, perhaps all users in the corp could bring in scan data, then at the corporate mining room they could manage said data, so that any corp members in the field could get updated data from the corp mining room as its updated.
This would make scans more important.

Thats a great idea actualy.

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Also, it'd be nice to have the ability to overlay scan results on the radar, instead of pulling up the map and navigating blindly by it

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i would really like to connect the mining results into one map.

just automatically "add" the tile-information into one database which is updated with every tile-scan result.
right now i got several overlapping tilescans for one tile. thats wasted memory and unpractital.

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If memory is your issue, which part? storing individual scans on the server? displaying them on the client? The load time for all these scans? I'd say that the composite will likely take up much more room and cause a heavier load unless you don't keep your scan bookmarks cleaned up. Right now we have 6 islands. What about in live when there will be hundreds or thousands of islands? Will a composite be practical then based on data issues?

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Wintermute wrote:

So, for mining corps/indy corps I could see this being really cool, as you could have a "warroom" map for mining/harvesting ops, where you could easily coordinate all your activities for all your mates.  Make it something that the solo miner/harvester doesn't get, make it a perk of corporate life to provide a benefit to the social aspect of the game (something most games don't do well, other than saying "you can kill/mine/grind/etc. more in a group than solo)?

This is an excelent idea. Also as Roastduck said it would be benificial to the prospector if he could have sorting tabs for scans i.e. Island and Type. The date sorting function will be helpfull for the Corp Mining Forman to help plan when new surveys should be taken of areas which are being mined. -V