Topic: Corp/Alliance member "only" sell orders.

This has been posted before, but never in a thread of it's own. (That I can recall.)

As the corp's primary manufacturer, I would LOVE to see corp only sell orders. Currently when someone needs a replacement bot, or ammo that isn't available at the station, I have to do one of several things.

1. Manually trade it to them via field container or corp hanger. (This requires me to be online 24/7. And is completely impractical.)

2. Leave the manufactured bots/equipment in a high level corp hanger. (This requires one of the corp leaders to be on at all times. (Semi-practical, as long as you trust the command staff.)

3. Leave stuff in a low level corp hanger. (Dumbest thing you could ever do.)

4. List the stuff on the market at insane prices, and reimburse the members later. (Too much trouble when you have a whole corp doing it.)

5. List the stuff on the market, and pray a non-corp member doesn't buy it all. (Obviously a horrible idea.)


Now what would solve all the problems here is simple corp member only sell orders. This would allow me to list all my manufactured goods on the market at very low prices, and allow corp members to purchase them at any time. Without having to have the station guarded 24/7/365 from people trying to grab it all.

This is a very needed feature. At least untill we can own a station and can prevent others from docking in it.

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Last edited by Blackomen (2010-01-15 19:57:28)

Re: Corp/Alliance member "only" sell orders.

Contract system. Better, worse idea? Just copying eve?

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Scrap Ferret wrote:

Contract system. Better, worse idea? Just copying eve?

-1 Contracts aren't needed.

What I would rather see, is more functionality to the market tool. So that you can put up buy/sell orders that only the person/group you specify can see it. This would have many uses. For instance, a corp could put up buy orders for raw materials that members have harvested, and you could put up a private sell order, much like a contract, but strickly  through the market tool.

If you wanna know why I'm against contract, I'll tell you why. It's not because it's too much like copying that other game, but it's because  of what contracts have turned in to in that other game. If you're wondering what I mean, do a search for a Navy raven. You'll find that 50% of the posted contracts aren't doing much more than hogging resources and slowing the entire contract market browser down.

The devs of that other game have stated on several occasions that the contracts system is putting an intense load on the server (market and contracts run on their own servers). I don't really feel contracts is such a great feature that it warrants investing in that much harware for it.

Besides, it's easier if everything that involves trade is kept to one interface.

Re: Corp/Alliance member "only" sell orders.

In my opinion, the corp storage system has enough options to be self sufficient.
Between level restricted corp containers, and ranks inside the corp, i think we have enough tools.

Allowing corp-only parallel market would, in my opinion, break the overall idea as i see it: share stuff through a public market.

It could be a feature that could interest many players, but i dont like it hmm

Re: Corp/Alliance member "only" sell orders.

Bambi wrote:

In my opinion, the corp storage system has enough options to be self sufficient.
Between level restricted corp containers, and ranks inside the corp, i think we have enough tools.

Allowing corp-only parallel market would, in my opinion, break the overall idea as i see it: share stuff through a public market.

It could be a feature that could interest many players, but i dont like it hmm

Sadly it's not sufficient for handling a large corporation like we have with almost 60 members. (I can only imagine how bad it will be come launch, and we double in size.) for supplying corp members with bots. (Keep in mind on pvp islands you can NOT buy everything, your limited only to race the station belongs to.) And thus the rest has to be player made/hauled. And since only a complete moron would give every member access to all the corp equipment, this requires that there be a better way of distributing said stuff.

With the corp/alliance only sell/buy orders, this problem is quickly and efficiently solved. I believe it's in fact something that will have to be implemented at some point in some form. At least untill we can lock people out of our pvp stations.

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Last edited by Blackomen (2010-01-17 06:37:18)

Re: Corp/Alliance member "only" sell orders.

Scrap Ferret wrote:

Contract system. Better, worse idea? Just copying eve?

I actually like the contract idea.

It would allow one to make specific deals to their own corp members or privately. One of the things I run into as a new industrial player is having private orders and I've had to arrange to "meet up" at stations in order to make the trade which is a hassle.

It also make it easier for me to support my corp. They can say how much ammo they need with payment there, and I can go down the list and fill orders on a first come first serve basis etc.

Re: Corp/Alliance member "only" sell orders.

Contracts I am unsure of, seeing as they tend to become abused and as mentioned become more of a clutter.

However, I do agree with selecting a "Corp Only" option which will only allow your corporation to see the item for purchase.

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I agree with the corp only buy/sell orders.  This would make it easier for corp members to sell minerals and ore to their corp.

The corp storage system is too limited for it to be a viable use for this purpose.  Right now, a person has read/write access to their access level.  So, if a person can donate at a certain level, they can also take.  This is not very secure.  Corp only buy orders would be a very convenient way for corp members to bring in minerals.  It would also be a convenient way to distribute produced goods.

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corporate members that spend every day just mining would like to earn NIC at near fair market rate.

Giving us corporate or alliance contracts would help make it feel like we are real corporations  and they wouldn't have wait for someone to come online and manually figure out what they deposited in the vault

Last edited by Wulvgar (2010-11-04 18:07:46)

Re: Corp/Alliance member "only" sell orders.

I definitely like the idea of having corp/alliance specific market orders, but I just wanted to add my own 2 cents to this as well:


If its simply for managing members input/output for corp storages, they could put a limit on how many items (or manufacturing units for the case of ammo) you can take out of a particular storage level per day.  These restrictions could even be a part of a larger "rights" class that members are put into, so not only are they given an access level, but also rights to how much they can take from these storages separate from the actual level.

The manager would assign members a certain rights level and storage access level separately, to allow for much wider range of possibilities to control corp storages.

Keep in mind that 1 "unit" refers to manufacturing units, and equals 1000 ammo/charges.

Level 1: 1 unit per 24 hours
Level 2: 3 units per 24 hours
Level 3: 6 units per 24 hours
Level 4: 20 units per 24 hours
Level 5: Unlimited

The only problem I can see that this could create is if you want people to have unlimited access to certain folders.  I would say you could turn on or off rights within each folder so its dictated by your level or is unlimited if you have access to that folder.

I'm not sure how it would handle a fully equipped mech, though, but it would likely still see it as 1 unit, as the manager likely put it in there for easy grabbing for someone who needed to get into a new mech quickly.

Re: Corp/Alliance member "only" sell orders.

Wulvgar you practice necromancy?

While this thread is very very old, I would still like to see this implemented.

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Not knowing eve and it's contract system, I would suggest an extension of the assignment system. How about intra coporate assignments.
A corp needs 100k Titan, let us create 4 assignments with 25k. Every miner can grap one and will get the reward after completion.
Those assignments could be used for everything.

Re: Corp/Alliance member "only" sell orders.

Blackomen wrote:

Wulvgar you practice necromancy?

While this thread is very very old, I would still like to see this implemented.

Sh*t, I didnt even realize it.... I just ignored the dates on the older post when I saw "Today" on the one before mine.

Still, would be a good thing to have.

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Yup. A very good idea. Still a problem.

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Yes give