Re: Eurocorp or Scamcorp

Siddy wrote:

I missed chanse to add my insigtful thoughts sad

Quoting for hilarity.

Why is it that M2S goons are rude to newbies in chat. Feed them with rage so they will have more cannon fodder to shoot at?

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Frankie Fourfingers wrote:

I find it interesting that some people talk about ecorp disbanding and its the same group of people who get their things for free.


LOLOLOLOL

You sir, are very badly informed.

The reason we can afford luxury beyond your imagination is because we have established hegemonia in beta islands.

NO ONE oposes us, NO ONE!

So, we can freely exploit the riches of beta islands and grant our members luxury.

When we give our mebers free heavy and t4 stuff, we arent being communist, we are being capitalist.

We are investing in our members, that will get that investment back to corporation, ten fold.

By giving our mebers the best, we secure our plase among the best.
In realiry, what happens is that we are not giving anything "free".
We are just giving our employes the means to do the job and the pay they deserve from the good job they do.


But i guess the modern economics are beyond the 1920's economical model your corp employs. I feel sorry for the recent sucker you robbed, yes, you robbed him of his work.
I feel also bad for all the other suckers that are still contributing to the Gambits god complex.

Asking 5m for mre3000?  IT ESSENTIAL TOOL for corp members to pvp, you dont make soldiers pay for the guns and tanks they use. roll


Frankie Fourfingers wrote:

Which corp do you think will be more cohesive and effective come the wipe?


Yes, i wonder.

Will it be the one wich inherits the economics of 1850's colonial slavetraders...

or the one with modern doctrines that actualy uses its human recources to the fullest, and develops itself.

wink

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Well, despite that Siddy made a good point, ECorp just keeps talking, talking and talking. Just look at the facts; We are dominating at pretty every aspect of this game - and i don´t say this for the sake of epeen but for the reason of fact.

When territorial control will come live you will see our dominion even more. People think that we are a complete pile of idiots - but thats rather amusing. All of our members are very intelligent. All the 'QQ M2s are a bunch of flamers' is based on people being jealous, trying to hide their inferiority behind phrases and words, just because they can´t stand these facts.

Examples how ECorp tries to hide their inferiority and other little facts everyone should know;

- Gambit trying to convince me to pass false information about his production capabilities by saying that they are able to produce more than they have etc.

- Halsoy trying to save his 'honour' by killing innocent Arkhe-Newbies on alpha islands so he stays on top of the server stats.

- Even Spank had to join their Corp because they were unable to provide their members with basic stuff. Spank-Quote from Teamspeak: 'they are ***, thats why i´m here helping them'

- Selfish people in ECorp preventing organised research. Arguing over Kernels lead to the current situation where noone of them is really able to be a valuable industrialist

- lack of coordination and planing; Gambit not being able as leader to provide an efficient structure

- The ransoming on own corp members: having secrets and making profit out of their own corp members. They tried to put it this way 'the more yo do for the corp the more you get'. Thats not correct. I saw mining guys in their corp who mined their asses off every day, feeding gambits pockets and him ripping them off money by selling tech overpriced to them back (basically the stuff they provided the materials to).

ETC. The list is endless. We could provide even more interesting facts about ECorp and their Alliance - especially BKK. But we will keep this confident until a later point for a showdown.

Have a nice day smile

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I have reopened this topic because corp drama is always interesting smile

Also merged the "Getting things right" topic into this one.

Be warned though that personal insults and stuff like that is still not tolerated.

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Dear me, what have i done. A threadnought!

UnendingDoom wrote:

I thought you were going to post chat logs. So much for that. You can complain all you want. You gave us kernals that were paid for by items. I know for a fact you got multiple t4 items for them. Plus it does not help your cause that you were cussing and raising hell.  I do not respond well to threats.

Im sorry you had a bad time by being AFK and acting a fool. Thats why you got kicked. Threats never help your situation. roll


"I know for a fact you got multiple t4 items for them."

liar.

I never had acces for any t4 items in first plase. And only t4 item i ever use is mre3000.
I drive lights and assault bots, t2 is must because of low weight and low replasement cost.


"Plus it does not help your cause that you were cussing and raising hell.  I do not respond well to threats."

Cussing?

Now i urge you to post some chatlogs, please. "slinging ***" must be the worst i sed. If it offends you, then good.

And, asking question, is not considered 'raising hell', not where i come from atleast. Unles you are again acusing me of something i got no clue abaut. Not be the first time, by the way *hint*  *hint*.

As for the 'threat'.

My only "threat", (i call it "promice") was to inform general publick of your sloppy code of conduct.
So they can consider themself warned when they have dealings with your bunch.

And shugar at the bottom!

'Acting fool' while being AFK at same time is also good accusation, if you are in american court. lol
I bet it is dificult to form to coeherent accusation, when you yourself got no clue why you did what you did. But if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside or help you sleep beter at night, you can think me of someone's alt.

Have a good night in your new bed.

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Siddy wrote:

I feel sorry for the recent sucker you robbed, yes, you robbed him of his work.

That sucker was you. You're not fooling anybody.

I feel also bad for all the other suckers that are still contributing to the Gambits god complex.

If anyone in here has a complex it's you and your cronies. Normally I wouldn't mind and cheer for you but you're taking this too far and plan to ruin the game to suit your needs.

Besides if this wasn't a beta I'd be seriously worried about the amount of riches acquired and the possibility of RMT.  Have seen that happen dozen times before because of people being this fanatic about something tend to make bad calls.

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Faxeir wrote:

  Have seen that happen dozen times before because of people being this fanatic about something tend to make bad calls.


Must be your 20 years of PVP experience from pong and flipper, right?

You are mistaken, we are not fanatics, if we were, whe whuld do exaktly what you did.
200+ corp of people that worship the dear leader.

We are, however, Darwinist's. Evolution will take care of its own.

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Least all this Dramma keeps me entertained untill the next patch

Grow up or die

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While I have thoughts of this being a overly clever plan to get a spy into M2S... lol (Falls down laughing at the thought of a elaborate plan by Ecorp) If you havn't already found a new corp 50cent, we'll be happy to take you. You get to bend over ecorp all day long, free bots, free fittings, advice/tips by the best pvpers in game, and you get to meet the guy ecorp is saying your the spy of. lol

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Least all this Dramma keeps me entertained untill the next patch

QFT

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Siddy wrote:

You are mistaken, we are not fanatics, ....

Why are you then trying to rig the game in your favor.

'We rulez teh betas. Phear us!'

'Movez al teh high-end to teh betaz so we can haz mor pew pewz!'

Obvious plan is obvious.

If the rumor of DEV/GM being ex-BoB is true they darn well know what I'm talking about.

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Faxeir wrote:
Siddy wrote:

You are mistaken, we are not fanatics, ....

Why are you then trying to rig the game in your favor.

'We rulez teh betas. Phear us!'

'Movez al teh high-end to teh betaz so we can haz mor pew pewz!'

Obvious plan is obvious.

If the rumor of DEV/GM being ex-BoB is true they darn well know what I'm talking about.



Thats the thing, we dont NEED to rig this game to be good.

We are that good  cool

While eurocorp covers shortcomings by blaming rigged game, biassed devs and gods in the sky.

We deal with it cool
And our advice with you is: deal with it cool

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Faxeir wrote:

If the rumor of DEV/GM being ex-BoB is true they darn well know what I'm talking about.

smile

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LatscherX wrote:
Faxeir wrote:

If the rumor of DEV/GM being ex-BoB is true they darn well know what I'm talking about.

Section 5 is the phrase where most of the oldest EVE-CEOs will get paranoias and go completely nuts.


Section 5 is deployed in Perpetuum. Fully operating and already strategy plans set for the next 3 years after relase. Thats the only info you will ever hear about S5 again, the rest is to be seen ingame/forums. GL.

This is why i already now say: GG.

This is all planned at BoB BBQ 1883

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smile

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I was in BoB and saw some nasty stuff there that disgusted me. Not because the things that happened but because people seemed to be OK with it. It got covered up and/or downplayed until people forgot about it. When in a winning mood people tend to forget that they didn't win because of their skills but because they lowered their own principles.

Same goes for M2S. You don't win because you're good. You win because you were the first ones to log in and have one guy dominate the markets. And yes E-Corp suck at PvP it seems but as far the competition goes the pool is rather small.

I don't claim devs are biased. I claim that they are being naive and/or are being played by a bunch of fanatic douchebags. I don't think AC is willing to risk it's reputation for this and with it losing the possibility of ever releasing this game. I'm not paying one cent for a rigged game, I've learned that much.

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Faxeir wrote:

I was in BoB and saw some nasty stuff there that disgusted me. Not because the things that happened but because people seemed to be OK with it. It got covered up and/or downplayed until people forgot about it. When in a winning mood people tend to forget that they didn't win because of their skills but because they lowered their own principles.

Same goes for M2S. You don't win because you're good. You win because you were the first ones to log in and have one guy dominate the markets. And yes E-Corp suck at PvP it seems but as far the competition goes the pool is rather small.

I don't claim devs are biased. I claim that they are being naive and/or are being played by a bunch of fanatic douchebags. I don't think AC is willing to risk it's reputation for this and with it losing the possibility of ever releasing this game. I'm not paying one cent for a rigged game, I've learned that much.

So now your are Ex-Bob with 20 years of PVP experience?

The auhority of your arguments are crushing me!


You are prime example of person who blame gods and others abstracts to cover his shortcoming.
Your "arguments from authority" attempts just makes it more clear that you have no backbone.


I don't think AC is willing to risk it's reputation for this and with it losing the possibility of ever releasing this game. I'm not paying one cent for a rigged game, I've learned that much.

Nice veiled threat. So what you are saying, if ecop dont start winning, i will ruin your reputation and make shure to cause you a comercial damage

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Siddy wrote:

Nice veiled threat. So what you are saying, if ecop dont start winning, i will ruin your reputation and make shure to cause you a comercial damage

Nice attempt to spin there bro. Dev know I'm not affiliated with E-corp. We all know about your compulsive fanaticism to have them destroyed at all cost.... in a beta.

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wake up

...

this crap

...

go back to bed.

<Kwitch> I tried to RE Epriton. The game lol'd @ me.
<Siddy> i hope your brains go enouhght processing poweres to realise the problem
<Socrates> ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα / "The only real wisdom is knowing you know nothing"

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Faxeir wrote:
Siddy wrote:

Nice veiled threat. So what you are saying, if ecop dont start winning, i will ruin your reputation and make shure to cause you a comercial damage

Nice attempt to spin there bro. Dev know I'm not affiliated with E-corp. We all know about your compulsive fanaticism to have them destroyed at all cost.... in a beta.


Its irony, that you think you are doing service to Ecorp by bringing arguments like "biassed Dev's/GM's"

Irony on so many levels.

Leaving the details out, look at the history. If you want to drag EVE analogies to this.
What corps/alliances used this kind of arguments in EVE to fight on forums?

Goons

And we all know whatkind of bastion of honesty and good conduct goons were.

Or

What happened to Goons eventualy lol

Your rambling makes Ecorp look like NAP-FAILTRAIN copy from EVE to any old EVE player that might watch this thread.

You might pad your own selfesteam by shifting the blame of failure on unacontable abstracts, but you are not winning any hearts and minds of people that have skills and ambition that ecorp both lacks and needs.

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Siddy wrote:

Its irony, that you think you are doing service to Ecorp by bringing arguments like "biassed Dev's/GM's"

I never claimed devs are biased. I claim that they are being naive and/or are being played by a bunch of fanatic douchebags.

Goons

Lol goons.

You might pad your own selfesteam by shifting the blame of failure on unacontable abstracts, ...

You have been whining to have high-end material in beta regions for a long time now. I don't think you can call this unaccountable. It's a fact that you are trying to rig this game by your own admission. There is no way you can weasel your way out of that.

A game with a mechanism that favors linear gameplay and lacking major self regulatory mechanisms for resources will remain unbalanced at all times and will put off the majority of the casual players. This is the major reason why stEve has to keep rushing new content to replace broken mechanism by new pre-nerfed new broken mechanisms.

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Faxeir wrote:

You have been whining to have high-end material in beta regions for a long time now. I don't think you can call this unaccountable. It's a fact that you are trying to rig this game by your own admission. There is no way you can weasel your way out of that.

A game with a mechanism that favors linear gameplay and lacking major self regulatory mechanisms for resources will remain unbalanced at all times and will put off the majority of the casual players. This is the major reason why stEve has to keep rushing new content to replace broken mechanism by new pre-nerfed new broken mechanisms.


Out of curiosity, are you familiar with concept of  "Risk vs Reward"?

Your ability to compleetly undremind the core mechanics of EVE and why EVE works is also, staggering.

You, sir, know absolutly nothing abaut how EVE works.

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Faxeir wrote:
Siddy wrote:

Its irony, that you think you are doing service to Ecorp by bringing arguments like "biassed Dev's/GM's"

I never claimed devs are biased. I claim that they are being naive and/or are being played by a bunch of fanatic douchebags.

Goons

Lol goons.

You might pad your own selfesteam by shifting the blame of failure on unacontable abstracts, ...

You have been whining to have high-end material in beta regions for a long time now. I don't think you can call this unaccountable. It's a fact that you are trying to rig this game by your own admission. There is no way you can weasel your way out of that.

A game with a mechanism that favors linear gameplay and lacking major self regulatory mechanisms for resources will remain unbalanced at all times and will put off the majority of the casual players. This is the major reason why stEve has to keep rushing new content to replace broken mechanism by new pre-nerfed new broken mechanisms.


could you elaborate your position a bit further? I don´t understand it.

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/Popcorn

This is better than the stuff in CAOD ...

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Siddy wrote:

Out of curiosity, are you familiar with concept of  "Risk vs Reward"?

Very much, so I know it's stupid to give someone the jackpot if he manages to kill a couple of newbies. It's quite hard to win a war if your opponent has 10 fully fitted backup mech if you have to grind for a full week to replace yours when that same guy made enough to buy 10 more. Besides you'll end up having to outblob your enemy if your setups are sub par.

You, sir, know absolutly nothing abaut how EVE works.

I know enough to spot your little scheme within my first week. I also know enough that you're bad at spelling and spying.