Topic: Regarding new Artemis Resistance Bonus

About the artemis bonus.
Id like to point out the alternative of giving straight out resist points as bonus as opposed to % based bonus.

Sure the % scales upwards a lot once you reach a certain point of resist with universals, but beeing laser based, you will never fit more than one resist plate on an artemis due to needing a acc. recharger.
And also a lightweight mod at all times, since the Thelodica speed changes (if i recall right). So 5 points per lvl would do better than 5% to base resist+module per lvl imho.

Sure you could fit 2 or 3 universals or actives in theory but you'd be dead in the water without repair capability and out of acc. -considering how acc intensive medium lasers and a med rep are, even when well skills and one or two rechargers fitted, so that would be senseless to even try.

Hence my argument to switch to a point based bonus instead of a % bonus on base resist.
Lets face it, 50% of 10% are just 5% and realy laughable for the time it needs to get the relevant extension (advanced robotics) to lvl 10.

I will however say that in exchange to this, the natural kinetic resist should be tweaked down a little, to avoid kinetic weapon/ammo doing jack all on a half-skilled artemis with universal mod.

Edit: Alternatively it would also be acceptable imho to lower acc cost on lasers to make the recharger modules more or less obsolete at a certain extension lvl on energy management and spec ops extensions. So to make reasonably room for a second resist mod to make use of the % based bonus more properly.

Edit2:Forgot to mention, i see 5points per lvl do ok instead of 5% to base.

Thanks for your time and great work so far!

Regards
Ushima

Last edited by Ushima Koranaki (2010-07-07 23:42:06)

Re: Regarding new Artemis Resistance Bonus

Here is my response after reading what you wrote. So I'm asking you questions about it. Not attacking it, just curious.

your choices on how you would never fit one, versus how you would, are objective. It's making the most out of the bot fitting capability, considering only one possible role. You neglect any idea of a purely buffer/dps build with logistics support. Or other variants. To make your argument valid, you negate options that are, in fact, good options.

And not having an armor rep does wonders for ac, so if your plan is to tank heavily, kill everything, and walk away with 50% armor but alive, it doesn't need the ac recharger. This is just once example.

50% of 10% is 5%. Is anything but worthless. when you are at 90% resistance, 5% is 50% of all incoming damage. when you're at 80% resistance, 5% is 25% of incoming damage. Since we're considering higher-resistances, it's important to consider it for what it is planned to be, not for how you imagine it in worst-case scenario.

I thought all Theolida bots kicked butt against em weapons? I'm a Nuimqol driver, and I'm cool with that.

acc reduction on lasers is an old topic. Don't think it deserves to be tacked on to this one for the above mentioned reasons.

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again, sorry if you think I just shot down your post. Not my intention. I just don't agree with it, and those are my reasons. If you discuss each one in turn, with a good counter-argument, perhaps I will agree with you after all.

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Re: Regarding new Artemis Resistance Bonus

Nevermind me, im just a crazy guy that needs sleep. -_-

Last edited by Ushima Koranaki (2010-07-08 05:21:40)

Re: Regarding new Artemis Resistance Bonus

ah, I get like that sometimes.

but I do like a good discussion. I often just make counter-points to make a nice back and forth from which I hope good logic comes from.  Don't get discouraged!  If you can expand on the idea, I look forward to reading it.

<Kwitch> I tried to RE Epriton. The game lol'd @ me.
<Siddy> i hope your brains go enouhght processing poweres to realise the problem
<Socrates> ἓν οἶδα ὅτι οὐδὲν οἶδα / "The only real wisdom is knowing you know nothing"

Re: Regarding new Artemis Resistance Bonus

Just blame your Daily dose of 1 litre of Beer Ushima big_smile

Re: Regarding new Artemis Resistance Bonus

Germany lost yesterday (soccer WC), so my usual dose of beer was way way overstepped. lol